Hi Arnold,

Nadir already scheduled 2 meetings. So he has to cancel those before I can delete his user account from the system...

Kind regards,

Julia Lechien | Brand Manager | AMS-IX
Vijzelstraat 70, 1017 HL Amsterdam, The Netherlands
M +31 6 4301 4257 
ams-ix.net
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On 25/08/2026, 16:32, "Arnold Nipper" <arnold.nipper@de-cix.net> wrote:

Hi Julia

can you please de-activate/remove the MEET accounts of

  * Kalkman, Dirk (Open Peering)

  * Bennacef, Nadir (NL-ix)

this giving Broadband Hosting B.V. 4 accounts. Dirk definitely did not
yet activate hos account. Nadir did. Please check if there are sessions
scheduled.


TIA and greetings
Arnold


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Subject: Re: [epf-orga] EPF 19 Attendance – NL-IX and Open Peering
Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 16:19:17 +0200 (CEST)
Resent-From: arnold.nipper@de-cix.net
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 13:33:08 +0000
From: Léon van der Laan <leonde@nl-ix.net>
To: orga@peering-forum.eu <orga@peering-forum.eu>
CC: orga@peering-forum.eu <orga@peering-forum.eu>



Hey Arnold,

Great to hear from you and thank you for taking the time to review the
situation again with the organising team.

We appreciate both the reconsideration of our case and your
acknowledgement that the registrations were approved and acted upon in
good faith. We also appreciate the recognition of the practical
implications and costs that had already been incurred by our colleagues
based on those approvals.

Thank you for offering this solution. We are pleased that all six
registered colleagues will be able to attend EPF 2026 without requiring
any cancellations or changes to existing travel arrangements.

We are grateful for the efforts made to resolve this matter and
appreciate the constructive and pragmatic approach taken by the EPF
team. We highly value our relationship with EPF, thank you for your
understanding, and look forward to another successful event.

Kind regards,

Met vriendelijke groet,


Léon van der Laan
Commercial Director

*Late Summer Drink 2026*
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17:00–23:00 (CEST)
Scheveningen, Netherlands

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Op 25-08-2026, 14:38 heeft 'Arnold Nipper' <arnold.nipper@de-cix.net>
geschreven:

Dear Léon,

Thank you for your message and for setting out the background so clearly.

Having reviewed the case again within the organising team, we
acknowledge that NL-ix and Open Peering are both brands of Broadband
Hosting B.V., and that this was not identified on our side when the
registrations were submitted and approved. We also fully recognise that
your colleagues acted in good faith on those approvals, that flights,
hotels and meetings have already been booked and confirmed, and that
real costs are attached to them. That timing is on us, and we are sorry
for the inconvenience it has caused.

We would therefore like to offer the following practical solution for
EPF 2026:

    * All six registered colleagues are welcome to attend. No one needs to
be cancelled and no travel arrangements need to be undone.

    * In line with the attendance limit of four representatives per
organisation, four of the six will have access to MEET and 1-1 meetings.

    * The remaining two colleagues are welcome to join the conference
programme, coffee breaks, the social events and the networking areas,
but will not have a MEET account or 1-1 meeting slots.

In practice this requires no change on your side. Four of your
colleagues have already activated their MEET accounts, and those four
keep full access, including any meetings they have already arranged. We
will de-activate MEET for the remaining two. If you would prefer a
different combination of four, please let us know by Friday, 28 August
2026, 12:00 CEST and we will arrange it.

We would ask you to treat this as a one-time accommodation for this
edition rather than a precedent, and we note and appreciate your
commitment to aligning future registrations with the clarified policy
from EPF 2027 onwards.

Thank you for your patience and for your continued support of EPF.

Kind regards,
Caro and Arnold, on behalf of the EPF Organising Team

On 2026-08-24 18:00, Léon van der Laan wrote:
  > Dear Carolin,
  >
  > While we appreciate and respect EPF's desire to apply its attendance
  > policy consistently, we would like to raise a concern regarding the way
  > this situation has developed.
  >
  > Following our registrations, we received formal registration approvals
  > from EPF for six participants. Based on these approvals, our colleagues
  > proceeded with their travel planning, booked flights and hotels, and
  > scheduled meetings with customers, partners and industry peers during
  > the event. Given these approvals, it is difficult for us to understand
  > why this issue is only being raised now, several months after
  > registration, formal approvals and after meeting tool was made available
  > by EPF. Had this concern been brought to our attention when the
  > registrations were submitted, we would have had the opportunity to
  > adjust our plans accordingly and avoid unnecessary costs and
inconvenience.
  >
  >  >From our perspective, NL-ix and Open Peering acted in good faith based
  > on approvals received directly from EPF this year and previous years. We
  > therefore feel that the consequences of what appears to be a late review
  > of the registrations are now being placed entirely on our side.
  >
  > To provide complete transparency, we will attach copies of the formal
  > approval confirmations received from EPF.
  >
  > Rather than continuing this discussion by email, we would welcome the
  > opportunity to discuss the matter directly. We therefore propose a short
  > call tomorrow to review the facts and explore a practical solution that
  > works for all parties.
  > We remain committed to respecting the clarified attendance policy going
  > forward and will ensure that our registrations for future EPF editions
  > fully align with the requirements communicated by EPF.
  >
  > Thank you for your consideration. We look forward to speaking with you
  > and hope we can resolve this matter in a constructive manner.
  >
  > Kind regards,
  >
  >
  > Léon van der Laan
  > Commercial Director
  >
  > *Late Summer Drink 2026*
  > 10^th September 2025
  > 17:00–23:00 (CEST)
  > Scheveningen, Netherlands
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  > *Onderwerp: *Re: EPF 19 Attendance – NL-IX and Open Peering
  >
  > Dear Carolin,
  >
  > Thank you for your response and for taking the time to consider our
request.
  >
  > While we understand and respect EPF's intention to apply the
  > participation terms consistently, we must admit we are disappointed by
  > this outcome, particularly given the timing.
  >
  > Our registrations were submitted quite some time ago. Since then, travel
  > arrangements, hotel bookings and customer meetings have already been
  > planned and confirmed by our colleagues. The request to reduce our
  > attendance comes only at a very late stage and even after the EPF
  > meeting tool has already been opened by EPF itself.
  >
  > What we find difficult to understand is why this issue was not raised
  > when the registrations were originally submitted. Had we been informed
  > at that point, we would have had the opportunity to adjust our plans
  > accordingly and avoid unnecessary costs and inconvenience. Instead, the
  > financial and operational impact of this late decision is now entirely
  > on our side.
  >
  > Given our continued support of EPF as a sponsor for the third
  > consecutive year, and considering that a similar registration approach
  > has never previously resulted in objections, we had hoped for a more
  > flexible and pragmatic approach in this specific situation. We are not
  > asking for a structural exception to the policy, but rather for
  > reasonable consideration of the circumstances and timing surrounding
  > this year's registrations.
  >
  > We would therefore like to kindly ask once more whether the EPF team
  > would be willing to reconsider its position and provide a one-time
  > accommodation for EPF 2026. We are, of course, willing to ensure that
  > all future registrations fully comply with the clarified interpretation
  > of the attendance rules and commit to taking this into account when
  > planning for EPF 2027.
  >
  > We greatly value our relationship with EPF and hope that a mutually
  > acceptable solution can still be found.
  >
  > Thank you again for your consideration, and we look forward to your
  > response.
  >
  > Kind regards,
  >
  >
  > Léon van der Laan
  > Commercial Director
  >
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  > 17:00–23:00 (CEST)
  > Scheveningen, Netherlands
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  > *Van: *Carolin Geib <carolin.geib@de-cix.net
<mailto:carolin.geib@de-cix.net>>
  > *Datum: *maandag, 24 augustus 2026 om 13:55
  > *Aan: *Léon van der Laan <leonde@nl-ix.net <mailto:leonde@nl-ix.net>>
  > *CC: *orga@peering-forum.eu <mailto:orga@peering-forum.eu>
<orga@peering-forum.eu <mailto:orga@peering-forum.eu>>
  > *Onderwerp: *AW: EPF 19 Attendance – NL-IX and Open Peering
  >
  > Dear Léon,
  >
  > Thank you for your message and for sharing the background. We fully
  > understand your perspective and appreciate NL-IX’s long-standing support
  > of EPF.
  >
  > At the same time, we have recently tightened and clarified our EPF
  > participation terms and will apply them consistently and strictly going
  > forward. This is important to ensure fairness and equal treatment for
  > all participants and sponsors. We therefore kindly ask for your
  > understanding and acceptance that, unfortunately, we cannot make an
  > exception for EPF 2026.
  >
  > We sincerely regret any inconvenience this may cause. Please be assured
  > that this decision is not directed against any individual or company,
  > but solely reflects our commitment to applying the participation terms
  > fairly and consistently to everyone.
  >
  > We greatly value having NL-IX on board as an EPF sponsor and very much
  > appreciate your continued support and commitment to the EPF community.
  >
  > Please let us know who the four NL-IX participants will be, so that we
  > can make sure the registrations are correctly reflected on our side.
  >
  > Thank you for your understanding, and we look forward to welcoming you
  > and the NL-IX team at EPF 2026.
  >
  > Kind regards,
  >
  > Carolin
  >
  > On behalf of the hosts (AMS-IX, DE-CIX, LINX and NETNOD)
  >
  > *Von:* Léon van der Laan <leonde@nl-ix.net <mailto:leonde@nl-ix.net>>
  > *Gesendet:* Montag, 24. August 2026 11:07
  > *An:* Carolin Geib <carolin.geib@de-cix.net
<mailto:carolin.geib@de-cix.net>>
  > *Cc:* orga@peering-forum.eu <mailto:orga@peering-forum.eu>
  > *Betreff:* FW: EPF 19 Attendance – NL-IX and Open Peering
  >
  > Dear Carolin,
  >
  > Thank you for your email and for taking the time to explain the
  > application of the EPF attendance policy.
  >
  > First of all, we fully understand and respect the need to apply the
  > rules consistently and fairly across all participants and sponsors.
  >
  > That said, we would like to provide some context from our side. NL-ix is
  > sponsoring EPF for the third consecutive year, and our registration
  > approach this year has been identical to that of previous years. In all
  > prior editions, this has never resulted in any concerns or issues being
  > raised.
  >
  > In fact, in 2024 it was not a problem for us to have an additional
  > colleague attending through Open Peering alongside our sponsorship
  > registrations, resulting in a total of five attendees. Last year,
  > including the sponsorship registrations, we attended with four
  > representatives. Given this history, the current interpretation comes as
  > a surprise to us.
  >
  > We would therefore like to kindly request a one-time exception for EPF
  > 2026. The registrations have already been completed, appointments during
  > EPF 2026 and some travel and hotel arrangements have already been
  > planned and booked based on our understanding of the participation model
  > applied in previous years. As such, receiving this notification at this
  > stage creates some practical difficulties. Should attendance beyond the
  > four included sponsor registrations require an additional fee, we would
  > be happy to pay the €500 registration fee per extra colleague referenced
  > on the EPF registration website for a fifth and sixth participant.
  >
  > Looking ahead, we will of course take the clarified interpretation of
  > the attendance policy into account when considering our participation
  > and sponsorship plans for future editions.
  >
  > We greatly value EPF and our long-standing involvement in the community,
  > and we hope that a practical solution can be found for this year's
event.
  >
  > Thank you for considering our request. We look forward to hearing
from you.
  >
  > Kind regards,
  >
  > Léon van der Laan
  >
  > Commercial Director
  >
  > *Late Summer Drink 2026*
  >
  > 10^th September 2025
  >
  > 17:00–23:00 (CEST)
  >
  > Scheveningen, Netherlands
  >
  > _Register Here_ <https://www.nl-ix.net/articles-events/event/late-
<https://www.nl-ix.net/articles-events/event/late->
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  >
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  > The Netherlands
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  > (including any attachments) from your system. None of the pricing or any
  > other information contained in, or attached to this document shall be
  > contractually binding unless and until incorporated in a formal written
  > and countersigned contract between the parties./
  >
  >     Begin forwarded message:
  >
  >     *From: *Carolin Geib <_carolin.geib@de-cix.net
<mailto:_carolin.geib@de-cix.net>_
  >     <mailto:carolin.geib@de-cix.net <mailto:carolin.geib@de-cix.net>>>
  >
  >     *Subject: * *EPF 19 Attendance – NL-IX and Open Peering*
  >
  >     *Date: *21 August 2026 at 16:15:06 CEST
  >
  >     *To: *"_dirk@nl-ix.net <mailto:_dirk@nl-ix.net>_
<mailto:dirk@nl-ix.net <mailto:dirk@nl-ix.net>>" <_dirk@nl-ix.net
<mailto:_dirk@nl-ix.net>_
  >     <mailto:dirk@nl-ix.net <mailto:dirk@nl-ix.net>>>,
"_kevin@nl-ix.net <mailto:_kevin@nl-ix.net>_ <mailto:kevin@nl-
  >     ix.net>" <_kevin@nl-ix.net <mailto:_kevin@nl-ix.net>_
<mailto:kevin@nl-ix.net <mailto:kevin@nl-ix.net>>>, "_vinnie@nl-
  >     ix.net_ <mailto:vinnie@nl-ix.net <mailto:vinnie@nl-ix.net>>"
<_vinnie@nl-ix.net <mailto:_vinnie@nl-ix.net>_
  >     <mailto:vinnie@nl-ix.net <mailto:vinnie@nl-ix.net>>>,
"_nadir@nl-ix.net <mailto:_nadir@nl-ix.net>_ <mailto:nadir@nl-
  >     ix.net>" <_nadir@nl-ix.net <mailto:_nadir@nl-ix.net>_
<mailto:nadir@nl-ix.net <mailto:nadir@nl-ix.net>>>,
  >     "_slobodan@nl-ix.net <mailto:_slobodan@nl-ix.net>_
<mailto:slobodan@nl-ix.net <mailto:slobodan@nl-ix.net>>" <_slobodan@nl-
  >     ix.net_ <mailto:slobodan@nl-ix.net
<mailto:slobodan@nl-ix.net>>>, "_mike@nl-ix.net <mailto:_mike@nl-ix.net>_
  >     <mailto:mike@nl-ix.net <mailto:mike@nl-ix.net>>"
<_mike@nl-ix.net <mailto:_mike@nl-ix.net>_ <mailto:mike@nl-ix.net
<mailto:mike@nl-ix.net>>>
  >
  >     *Cc: *"'orga@peering-forum.eu <mailto:orga@peering-forum.eu>'"
<_orga@peering-forum.eu <mailto:_orga@peering-forum.eu>_
  >     <mailto:orga@peering-forum.eu <mailto:orga@peering-forum.eu>>>
  >
  >     Dear NL-IX and Open Peering colleagues,
  >
  >     I hope you are well.
  >
  >     Following a review of the EPF registrations, we received a note
  >     regarding the registrations from NL-IX and Open Peering. As both
  >     entities belong to the same parent organisation, Broadband Hosting
  >     B.V., we need to apply the EPF attendance policy accordingly.
  >
  >     _The relevant rule states:_
  >
  >     “The attendance limit applies per organisation, not per ASN. This
  >     means that organisations with multiple ASNs connected to one or more
  >     host IXPs are still limited to a maximum of four representatives in
  >     total. Separate entities belonging to the same parent organisation
  >     may be treated as a single entity for capacity limits.”
  >
  >     As a Silver Sponsor, your sponsorship includes four attendees. Four
  >     representatives is also the maximum number of participants permitted
  >     per network under the general EPF attendance rules.
  >
  >     Therefore, if NL-IX and Open Peering would like to attend with six
  >     representatives in total, it would be necessary to upgrade the
  >     sponsorship to Platinum, which would allow the additional attendees.
  >
  >     If you would prefer to remain on the Silver Sponsorship, could you
  >     please let us know which four participants will attend the EPF and
  >     whose names we should remove from the registration list *by Monday,
  >     24 August, at the latest?*
  >
  >     We fully appreciate that this may be inconvenient, and we hope you
  >     understand that we need to apply the rules consistently to ensure a
  >     fair and balanced event for all participants and sponsors.
  >
  >     Thank you very much for your understanding and cooperation. Please
  >     let us know how you would like to proceed.
  >
  >     Best regards,
  >
  >     Carolin
  >
  >     On behalf of the EPF hosts
  >
  >

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